Original Date posted: Wed, 21 July 2004 09:34:14
Post: This has been nagging in my head for a while now and I feel it is at some sort of stage to put to electronic paper and discuss with other people. This theory all lies behind a simple statement that I thought up while being my ever egotistical self;
"I am perfect yet everything else is imperfect"
In examining this, I was wondering how in fact anyone could prove this person wrong. It would seem impossible for imperfection to argue with said person. As they may in fact be imperfect, all of their reasoning and thought processes may be flawed, and hence cannot be trusted. Thus nothing they say can be completely relied upon. Seconding this, ‘everything else,’ with the exception of this “self being” is imperfect; suggesting that secondary things may distort perceptions, hence perceptions cannot be fully relied on either. This makes the statement nigh infallible.
A question was then brought to my attention, what happens if someone else also says "I am perfect, yadda yadda... ". This presents a sort of parallax. It means the statement is either right or it is wrong, and there is no way to prove either way. If it were wrong, no one would be perfect, end of discussion. However, if it is correct, for which there is a fifty-fifty chance, it would have some implications. For it to be correct there can be no differences between the "self being" of the two people. As if there is a difference, one will obviously have an advantage over the other, hence rendering one of them imperfect.
In drawing conclusions from this and the fact that any person could say this (or at least think it), everyone would in fact be equal and perfect in everyway. Drawing this further and considering a hypothetical position in time and space, so as not to hold advantages or disadvantages, everyone must be part of ONE thing and not just replicas of a perfect thing.
This presents an image of one overall consciousness that is perfect. You could call this God.
Looking at scriptures and what Christianity has to say about God it states;
- God made us in his own image
- God is everywhere and 'within us all'
This reinforces the conclusions made so far. If we are all part of a greater perfection, that perfection being God, then he is within us all and our image pertains to God as we are actually part of God.
The Soul
The soul is seen as the life source for humans, when we die our soul leaves our body. Or so is said by religious folk. This is the image of a soul, it is a life force, it is what we are.
The idea of having a soul can be backed up by the initial argument, "I am perfect yet everything else is imperfect". Our soul is the perfect entity, the "self being" and our bodies (or universe even) being the imperfect vessels. This also provides answers as to why we do not view perfection and assume imperfection; we see imperfection because imperfection is distorting everything we percept.
Jesus
Christianity, which believes Jesus is the true Son of God, also believes that Jesus was PERFECT IN EVERY WAY. Jesus being, of course, God. In suggesting that one person is perfect it suggests that this logical process is also perfect and that the initial statement holds true.
Overall, this is one big vicious cycle that never actually proves anything (concluding that it is 50:50 whether God exists or not, yes or no). But it does hold fairly strong similarities with Christian beliefs which can in turn provide confidence in some sort of higher, all Seeing Eye.
Feel free to email and discuss this with me.
Post: This has been nagging in my head for a while now and I feel it is at some sort of stage to put to electronic paper and discuss with other people. This theory all lies behind a simple statement that I thought up while being my ever egotistical self;
"I am perfect yet everything else is imperfect"
In examining this, I was wondering how in fact anyone could prove this person wrong. It would seem impossible for imperfection to argue with said person. As they may in fact be imperfect, all of their reasoning and thought processes may be flawed, and hence cannot be trusted. Thus nothing they say can be completely relied upon. Seconding this, ‘everything else,’ with the exception of this “self being” is imperfect; suggesting that secondary things may distort perceptions, hence perceptions cannot be fully relied on either. This makes the statement nigh infallible.
A question was then brought to my attention, what happens if someone else also says "I am perfect, yadda yadda... ". This presents a sort of parallax. It means the statement is either right or it is wrong, and there is no way to prove either way. If it were wrong, no one would be perfect, end of discussion. However, if it is correct, for which there is a fifty-fifty chance, it would have some implications. For it to be correct there can be no differences between the "self being" of the two people. As if there is a difference, one will obviously have an advantage over the other, hence rendering one of them imperfect.
In drawing conclusions from this and the fact that any person could say this (or at least think it), everyone would in fact be equal and perfect in everyway. Drawing this further and considering a hypothetical position in time and space, so as not to hold advantages or disadvantages, everyone must be part of ONE thing and not just replicas of a perfect thing.
This presents an image of one overall consciousness that is perfect. You could call this God.
Looking at scriptures and what Christianity has to say about God it states;
- God made us in his own image
- God is everywhere and 'within us all'
This reinforces the conclusions made so far. If we are all part of a greater perfection, that perfection being God, then he is within us all and our image pertains to God as we are actually part of God.
The Soul
The soul is seen as the life source for humans, when we die our soul leaves our body. Or so is said by religious folk. This is the image of a soul, it is a life force, it is what we are.
The idea of having a soul can be backed up by the initial argument, "I am perfect yet everything else is imperfect". Our soul is the perfect entity, the "self being" and our bodies (or universe even) being the imperfect vessels. This also provides answers as to why we do not view perfection and assume imperfection; we see imperfection because imperfection is distorting everything we percept.
Jesus
Christianity, which believes Jesus is the true Son of God, also believes that Jesus was PERFECT IN EVERY WAY. Jesus being, of course, God. In suggesting that one person is perfect it suggests that this logical process is also perfect and that the initial statement holds true.
Overall, this is one big vicious cycle that never actually proves anything (concluding that it is 50:50 whether God exists or not, yes or no). But it does hold fairly strong similarities with Christian beliefs which can in turn provide confidence in some sort of higher, all Seeing Eye.
Feel free to email and discuss this with me.
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